Try playing with this restriction:
You can only discard dora if it makes you tenpai.
I dont think this is particularly good strategy (some people do) but trying this out definitely helped my play.
Post impressions!
			
			
									
									
						Dora Experiment
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				sir_seagill
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Re:Dora Experiment
I always feel a little uneasy whenever I get a single dora in my starting hand that has nothing near it (especially if it\'s an honor tile.. with value) Do I get rid of it asap so no one can pon it? What if they already have a pair? What if I draw another one later on? 
If I keep it, it tends to get nearly to the end and then I have to discard it to get into tenpai and it freaks me out cos usually it\'s a live tile...
			
			
									
									
						If I keep it, it tends to get nearly to the end and then I have to discard it to get into tenpai and it freaks me out cos usually it\'s a live tile...
Re:Dora Experiment
Hmm, could try that out some time, but I always tend to have the same problem with seagill, I get dora but nothing connects to it.
As a strategy it is a bit risky, but the reward for success is really worth it.
			
			
									
									
						As a strategy it is a bit risky, but the reward for success is really worth it.
Re:Dora Experiment
We should add the rule of \"No honor tiles on the 1st discard\" to this, Janki-style mahjong. 
The drawback is that if anyone knows you\'re following the restrictions, discarding dora means the same as reach. :side:
			
			
									
									
						The drawback is that if anyone knows you\'re following the restrictions, discarding dora means the same as reach. :side:
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				Archon_Wing
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Re:Dora Experiment
I haven\'t tried it out yet, but I expect a number of negative scores. ;)
			
			
									
									
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				anbujustin
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Re:Dora Experiment
I tried this last night (holding dora and honor tiles) and it was awesome! 
It might have been all luck but I was getting dragons way more often that I did before. The scary part is when you dont get them at all but I find that people will discard them so now theyre safe tiles later on too.
However it seems like I help people with ron more often than before but not to a significantly huge amount as long as I pay attention
			
			
									
									
						It might have been all luck but I was getting dragons way more often that I did before. The scary part is when you dont get them at all but I find that people will discard them so now theyre safe tiles later on too.
However it seems like I help people with ron more often than before but not to a significantly huge amount as long as I pay attention
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				iandstanley
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Re:Dora Experiment
I would tend to defer for a FEW discards as I quite often pick up something useful within 2-4 tiles from the wall.sir_seagill wrote:I always feel a little uneasy whenever I get a single dora in my starting hand that has nothing near it (especially if it\'s an honor tile.. with value) Do I get rid of it asap so no one can pon it? What if they already have a pair? What if I draw another one later on?
Good advice is to learn patience with any variant of mahjong. I have been playing chinese mahjong for 28 years only recently finding the differences with Japanese Riichi. Having not played for a while I drifted back into a more aggressive discard regime and my game deteriorated.
If your end hand is clear then feel free to discard otherwise wait for a few tiles off the wall and discard only when you feel safe
A recent hand taught me some patience ... I was dealt .....
green-dra green-dra green-dra 6-bam :north :north :north
Prevailing Wind :east and Dora Indicator 5-bam
Two tiles later I was ready when the player opposite dropped 6-bam :ohmy:
A couple of draws later I drew 6-bam claimed the kong and turned over the kan-dora :west
Two turns later tsume 24,000 ... darn shame it was only against 3 computer opponents! However, the lesson learned has brought dividends on tenhou where I am starting to hold my own.