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for me.
We're already iishanten with so many ways to tenpai.
I don't even see what we could do with this extra . Toitoi is out of question and there is no point to have if we don't do chitoi nor use them in shuntsu with the we already have.

I agree w/

I thought at first that we would need a baiman to tsumo with this hand, so i figured there's no choice but to go for suu-an-kou... but it seems I just can't do math, a haneman tsumo would put us in 3rd by 100 points. It's definitely not out of the question to get haneman if we can grab the dora and make a run of . If we had 100 points less, I'd discard , heh...

. It's gone. Whoosh.

Riichi tsumo pinfu iipeiko aka1 + either 2pin or uradora. Haneman tsumo, just as planned.

The last tile should be as defensive as possible. 6man seems a little bit more dangerous than the 6-pin, so it has to go now. I'd have kept the west wind instead of the 4-pin last turn.

Seems like a pretty conclusive response! tsumogiri for me. Here's hoping for third place!

Ok, I can understand 6m, but why tsumogiri? If you get the 2p dora and end up waiting on the sou ryanmen, isn't it more active to discard 6m from the hand to create some kind of suji and make man suite a bit more dangerous? That way you can even ron on 1st place and hope for ura to get the haneman. I think..

iDagon wrote:Ok, I can understand 6m, but why tsumogiri? If you get the 2p dora and end up waiting on the sou ryanmen, isn't it more active to discard 6m from the hand to create some kind of suji and make man suite a bit more dangerous? That way you can even ron on 1st place and hope for ura to get the haneman. I think..

Exactly which suji do you wanna create? There's no 1-4, 2-5, 5-8, 3-6 or 6-9 possible. It -maybe- could only work as a 4-7 gimmick, but it's unlikely given your other discards, so it's just pointless. In the worst of cases, it could be obvious that it's kara-giri or furikae, and you're giving away information on the reliability (number-wise) of manzu.

Or just wasting everyone's time by going to pick up that tile.

If there is something without a clear meaning, don't do it.