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Discard reading

Post by Mauro » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:46 pm

In a show I'm watching, one of the players has this discards:
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From this the other players suppose that he's tenpai, and that his outs are 3-dot 6-dot.

Assuming he has tenpai could depend on him discarding 9-dot 8-dot, since that's a tātsu, so either he drew better tiles, he's aiming for tanyao, or he's tenpai; but I have no idea about getting from those discard to the outs. I was wondering if is there really a way to do such a reading from those discard.

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Re: Discard reading

Post by or2az » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:38 pm

Wow! So he has a 4-dot 5-dot in his hand and is ready and waiting.
Those must be really good other players. I would love to be able to deduce that after those 5 discards.
And he didn't even call riichi when he tossed the :west .
I'm impressed.

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Re: Discard reading

Post by Ozball » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:57 am

I feel that there might be a bit of a stretch to get ALL that information from just those discards (tenpai possibly, but being certain about the 36p wait seems a bit far fetched to me, but I could be wrong. Also it could be based on some of the other discards and what the person themselves has in their hand), but there is a lot you can tell from discards that might not be apparent initially.

Murakami Jun does a bit of talking about discard reading on his appearance on Mahjong Watch's Mahjong No Takumi. The videos are in Japanese, but the first 3 hands have English subtitles at least, and can give you an insight into some discard reading.
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Re: Discard reading

Post by Barticle » Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:23 pm

The 8p could've been an Ura-Suji but that would've been for a 4-7 wait. (Holding 6_8, draw 5, discard 8.)

Out of interest, what show was this from? Also was the discarder wearing mirror sunglasses? 8)

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Re: Discard reading

Post by Mauro » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:22 pm

Legendary Gambler Tetsuya. And no, no sunglasses XD

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Re: Discard reading

Post by Shirluban » Mon May 06, 2019 8:57 am

Tenpai status could be inferred by other info, like the time to discard, which tiles are draw-discarded, if the discard is dangerous/dora, ...
But on the 5th discard it's very far-fetched, and the winning tiles can be anything.
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